tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post1437874865923980825..comments2024-02-22T12:55:00.015+00:00Comments on Tom London: Murder followed by disaster followed by stupid self-indulgenceTom Londonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17758489868048216894noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-12095090005825830572016-07-05T21:00:06.728+01:002016-07-05T21:00:06.728+01:00Again I agree with many of the comments but my cen...Again I agree with many of the comments but my centralcppint is that Corbyn is not a credible leader and will not be able to achieve power for labour. O wish I could identify a Labour figure who isMike Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05605127748925918407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-63636646896564540182016-06-29T18:41:11.252+01:002016-06-29T18:41:11.252+01:00Tom London,
have watched with ever greater amazeme...Tom London,<br />have watched with ever greater amazement the unfolding coup attempt by the PLP. Am watching from afar so don't get all the details but please tell me did one of the leading "visionaries" who are so desperate to get rid of Corbyn stand up and thank Cameron for speaking for the nation when he declared that Corbyn should go now? I mean this was the language used when booting out Neville Chamberlain for having failed to stop Poland being invaded by Hitler.<br />Watching that sequence almost made me feel ill. <br />It would appear that this abysmal Brexit process and its unexpected result is all the fault of Corbyn. Not that of the government which followed up several years of the most vicious attacks on working class people (dressed up as "fixing the roof when it is not raining") by calling a referendum as a proxy for settling an intra Tory party feud; not that of a would be PM who would stoop to any level to win the glittering prize; not that of the rest of the PLP, only Corbyn. Nice and simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-52441925984907646092016-06-29T10:27:05.524+01:002016-06-29T10:27:05.524+01:00Everyone really has to take on board what the Labo...Everyone really has to take on board what the Labour coup plotters are all about. They say "Corbyn is unelectable" and is "not a leader", but the reality is different. It is they themselves who are not electable,and it is they themselves, where you will not find ONE single leader. Why? Just take a recent example for instance, and the time the same block of "performing seals" - who are trying to force Corbyn out - abstained on the Welfare Bill vote, while bowing to the mainstraem media narrative of "scrougers v strivers." then pushing their own "Labour for Hard Working families" sell. So when the time came,and Iain Duncan Smith finally resigns, admitting those on welfare were targeted for cuts because they were unlikely to vote Conservative, it SHOULD give us all a very clear example of their politics, their lack of leadership qualities, their priorities and importantly,their extremely poor decision making. That is the truth of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-5235002973985013812016-06-29T08:34:46.910+01:002016-06-29T08:34:46.910+01:00...and of course, we now know for sure, Murdoch co......and of course, we now know for sure, Murdoch companies subverted our democracy by hacking politicians phones (See Nick Davies's "Hack Attack")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-50770298462267983012016-06-29T08:03:27.715+01:002016-06-29T08:03:27.715+01:00"As is the need to get mainstream media. At l..."As is the need to get mainstream media. At least half on board." Do you really think that is the way to go ? Hasn't that been the very reason why Labour has not spoken for the disenfrachised. Tony Blair did a backroom deal with the Murdoch press we now know for sure. This submission of principles in exchange for power, isn't this exactly the root cause of what is happening now ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-74997509548978419102016-06-27T21:31:07.954+01:002016-06-27T21:31:07.954+01:00And I forgot: in answer to your second question. M...And I forgot: in answer to your second question. Much as I dislike saying it. Uncontrolled immigration or did you not hear the message from the Labour heartlands. If we do not listen and respond they will vote for someone that does listen. Post 2010 David milliband went on Tele to say Labour was "late to the immigration game". Glad he went away. How any politician can be crass enough to call immigration a game is beyond meMike Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05605127748925918407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-7176696605900209292016-06-27T20:23:03.946+01:002016-06-27T20:23:03.946+01:00I am anti Tory but not always labourI agree with m...I am anti Tory but not always labourI agree with many of your sentiments. I even agree that jc does not get fair media coverage. BUT. What I see with my eyes and hear with my ears tells me that he does not fit the macho stereotype that we expect from our most senior leaders (male and female) you and I may wish it were not so but it is. As is the need to get mainstream media At least half on board. And if we ignore this we will probably fail the ultimate electoral test. Its no use wishing things were different. <br />And I cried with frustration watching and listening to him make the case for remain. It was a politics seminar rather than an appeal to the heart.<br />Lastly: if Labour had a decent alternative jc would probably not be leader now. So I fear deeply for progressive politics and values. The ukip genie is well out of the bottle and in Labour heartlands. I don't know who can slay it but I'm sure its not jcMike Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05605127748925918407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-60478997098494341602016-06-27T18:37:39.016+01:002016-06-27T18:37:39.016+01:00Funny enough I was thinking about the mass resigna...Funny enough I was thinking about the mass resignations as I listened to Radio 4 news in the car this lunchtime.<br /><br />And it seemed to me that Jeremy Corbyn is just the leader of what should be a team - so if the Labour Party was not getting its message across then it is nearly as much the responsibility of his fellow shadow cabinet members as it is for him as leader.<br /><br />As Tom says, resigning from the shadow cabinet on the excuse of blaming your leader for not getting the message across is just the next step from a shadow cabinet that wanted Corbyn to fail and are looking for an excuse to oust him.Paul Fnoreply@blogger.com