tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post6007027757359997250..comments2024-02-22T12:55:00.015+00:00Comments on Tom London: If you really want to get the Tories out, don't undermine Jeremy CorbynTom Londonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17758489868048216894noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-68522363315735313762016-06-06T09:26:17.162+01:002016-06-06T09:26:17.162+01:00Yes ...ask "real people" about the polic...Yes ...ask "real people" about the policies (don't say they are "old lefty Corbyn policies" as Ken Clarke would call them) and they respond overwhelmingly positively...the same "phenomenon" is currently on display in the USA of course with Bernie Sanders...like Corbyn ,not a "pie in the sky /"extremist", but ,as Noam Chomsky calls him ,an old-fashioned "new dealer"...a sensible range of Socialist Government interventions etc...and "Marxist" economics as advocated by Prof Richard D Wolff, and spelled out to an extent by John Mcdonnell are ,also ,obviously what we need.Don't call them,or characterise them in that way of course...A prime example are "worker owned collectives" that are the silicon valley small startup app' developers that make millions...they would obviously call themselves somthing like,"free-market entreprenuers" of course...but they embody the "means of production" ownership workers collective model,which is the next phase on from venture Capitalism that produces the 99% v the 1% that we have, (remember "Clause Four"? and it's eradication LOL)<br /> The media mantra of "unelectable" for Corbyn ,like the non-coverage of Bernie Sanders in the USA versus the Asshole In Chief "good for ratings" Trump well...i see it eroding ... Sanders could win the California primary...The Democrat Party are now almost in the same position as the Repubs are with Trump!...there least favoured "non-establishment" candidate is doing too well!<br />Jeremy Corbyn may be easily ridiculed by the Bullingdon Club set as "Citizen Corbyn" and all that...but "put on a proper suit ..tuck yer shirt in ...and " hang on who's Cameron having a go at today Jeremy or Boris?... To the detracting commentaters...my "centre right" "Blairite" scenario,i suppose involves the promotion of Sadiq Kahn to leader,under the (left) wing of Jezza...but that's just my bit of "pie in the sky" thinking for now...chris morrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07511215673215897430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-91324490320844806652016-04-26T07:10:41.351+01:002016-04-26T07:10:41.351+01:00What you fail to address is that getting rid of Co...What you fail to address is that getting rid of Corbyn would *increase* the chances of Labour winning the next election. So, logically speaking, anyone who wants rid of the Tories should want rid of Corbyn too. That is, if getting rid of the Tories is all that matter, as you claim.Unmutualnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-47416818902035065742016-04-26T00:47:03.316+01:002016-04-26T00:47:03.316+01:00What a load of utter rubbish! As you clearly want ...What a load of utter rubbish! As you clearly want to lose the next election 'on principle and with a conscience' go and vote Green.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-61337168873220621192016-04-24T19:03:46.930+01:002016-04-24T19:03:46.930+01:00Dear Progress,
In Progress I mean the Labour Party...Dear Progress,<br />In Progress I mean the Labour Party Members who despaired at Jeremy Corbyns election as leader or anybody not affilliated with Progress who holds the same opinions.<br />Jeremy has inherited a shambles of a party who have been so consumed with the desire for office that they have tried to mimic tory policies at the flick of a Daily Mail headline.Ed Milliband was doomed as leader as soon as he was elected and everybody knew it.If you like power, swapping Blair for Brown was an act of self harm such as I have never seen.It is that stupidity of swapping (via a coronation) a man who could win for a man who could never which has kept us out of power and is now hurting 95% of the electorate.<br />The cries of "unelectable" are in stark contrast to what voters are saying about Jeremy.Were Gordon or ED electable?,somebody must have thought so but now that somebody needs to realise that Blair had charisma,he was popular and well liked,criticism rolled off his teflon carcasse effortlessly.Gordon and Ed had none of these qualities.Cameron has them in spades,he learnt them sitting across from Blair at the despatch box.<br />The advantages of Jeremy as leader from an "electability" point of view are positively legion,here are just a few,<br />1-<br />He is untainted by the ill thought out wars in Iraq Afghanistan and Libya.He was right to oppose them, he has with hindsight shown wisdom and millions agree with that position.<br />2-<br />Jeremy is likeable.Everyone said of Ed, and I am sure it is true that, "he was likeable when you got to know him",Jeremy comes across as likeable on the radio,on the TV,on facebook,on twitter or wherever he speaks to packed meetings.People are enamoured and encouraging towards him.Young Labour members have just given him rousing support.Women like him.I would not say he was exactly my cup of tea for leader but he can certainly have my support because of the "likeability" of the man.Without likeable there is no "electable" ever!<br />3-<br />His honesty.<br />Open and transparent,genuine and sincere,no maliciousness or personal nastiness,he comes across as all of these things.Who else amongst us can portray this profile in todays politics ?People are crying out for honest fair politics and who better to give it to them than Jeremy Corbyn MP. Honesty is not just a commendable trait in politics it is a strength and an armour and ultimately a fearsome weapon.The press destroyed the odious farage. They just continually and relentlessly fucked him up and it worked.They did exactly the same with Ed and Gordon who became like the tabloids playthings.They could not lay a glove on jeremy during his election or afterwards.Seamus,or however you spell it, Milne is a very canny operator in the face of the press barrage they dont need to refute or rebutt,just watch the press embarass itself and membership push towards half a million.His honesty makes him unassailable.Without unassailable there is no "electable".<br />I dont know if Jeremy can get into number 10 without the whole party behind him.There seems a big slice of the PLP determined to do him down and these would seem to be the same people who have lost two open goal elections and Scotland.The same people who backstabbed and arselicked their way into office and position and then backstabbed and arselicked their way out of it.How inept ? How stupid ? I ask this of these PLP members.Please abandon your own faulty judgment and give Jeremy your support however tacit or caveated.grasmithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03722928615453212581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-75665196041372691122016-04-24T19:02:51.444+01:002016-04-24T19:02:51.444+01:00This is excellent - it distils perfectly how I fee...This is excellent - it distils perfectly how I feel.<br />Thank you.Ephemeridhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09961623760600479012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-73323787791512714672016-04-24T18:20:39.592+01:002016-04-24T18:20:39.592+01:00I have been a Tory voter for most of my life.
It ...I have been a Tory voter for most of my life.<br /><br />It used to be a choice between the nanny party that wanted to smother me in unwanted safety nets and spend, spend, spend - or the party that wanted to give people freedom and choices.<br /><br />I may not have liked some of Thatcher's policies, but at least I felt that they were based on values and beliefs that were not just sucking up to the electorate.<br /><br />Then it became the Blairite party that blew with the wind and bluffed about prudent finances vs. the party that wanted to give people freedom and choice.<br /><br />Next it was the blow with the wind and spend party who had been responsible for the "light touch" self-regulation of financial services that led to the banking crisis vs. the party who wanted to stop us bankrupting ourselves. <br /><br />It sounded good and people bought it - but it turned out that it was the weakest and poorest that bore the brunt of the cuts.<br /><br />So, it had become a choice between two parties who will say and do anything to get elected, an then do what they really wanted to do but never told us beforehand.<br /><br />Then comes Corbyn - a man who appears to have a conscience, who seems to be driven by values and beliefs rather than polls. But (a bit like John Major) someone who doesn't want to use bread and circuses / warnings of doom to get his way, and perhaps someone who has yet to find how to get his point across without compromising his principles.<br /><br />And finally, we have the current government, determined by stealth to privatise schools by calling them "academies", and the health service and County Council's through so called "devolution" which transfers power and ownership to unelected, undemocratic "local enterprise partnerships". <br /><br />This was not part of the Tory manifesto, and they have no mandate from the people to do this - which I suppose is why they disguise it using weasel words.<br /><br />And this weekend we find that the Tory Cabinet has fixed the local government funding so that their own constituencies are favoured and others are starved. Not to mention the Panama papers and the Tory support for abuse of the tax system by the rich.<br /><br />Every time I think that the Tories have hit moral rock bottom, they show me I am wrong, and keep sliding further into the filth.<br /><br />In last years Parliamentary elections I voted Independent (we have a GREAT local Independent candidate - and I cannot express how much I loath my Tory MP), though I would have otherwise voted Labour.<br /><br />I doubt I will be voting Tory again, either for Parliament or for local government.<br /><br />I believe that people vote for who they trust - trust comes from knowing what someone believes in and sticks to. <br /><br />I don't feel I can trust the Tories - they are imply too self-serving and morally corrupt. By contrast Corbyn is starting to look like someone trustworthy - even if you don't agree with some of his beliefs, at least he has some and is prepared to stick with them however unpopular they may be with others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-53602321445416012122016-04-24T10:08:46.012+01:002016-04-24T10:08:46.012+01:00A very sensible blogA very sensible blogJohn thatcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18115804661937991973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-48361515622886166802016-04-23T22:11:22.186+01:002016-04-23T22:11:22.186+01:00Given that 9.5m people voted Labour, and 17m didn&...Given that 9.5m people voted Labour, and 17m didn't (which is, for these purposes, to ignore the no-shows) it will take more than a couple of hundred thousand enthusiastic £3-ers to get Corbyn into Number 10. Firstly, you need to turn Scotland completely around - away from the SNP and exclusively back to Labour. Without Scotland's seats, there would have been only two Labour governments since 1938. The arithmetic completely contradicts your optimism, Mr London, I'm afraid.Sir Thomas Crapperhttp://www.thenewcolloquium.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1532254976341123883.post-77306104464932907322016-04-23T21:28:23.475+01:002016-04-23T21:28:23.475+01:00Fantastic blog I shall be following you no doubt ,...Fantastic blog I shall be following you no doubt , yes your right were not trots or loons or commies just the majority in the party totally fed up with this Tory government and the hardship they have heaped on the little man, just be aware Tories the worm is turning Andy Moirnoreply@blogger.com